Comments on: Public High School in Oakland http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/ The Intersection of Design & Motherhood Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:55:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: School Ratings – Do they really matter? | Kuerth Creative | Graphic Design + Inspiration http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-2346924 School Ratings – Do they really matter? | Kuerth Creative | Graphic Design + Inspiration Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:29:44 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-2346924 [...] I read this post on the Design Mom blog. Here was an educated, caring mother, someone whom I respect, sending her [...]

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By: On Getting My Kids Into College « Rich and Deep and High and Wide http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-2338056 On Getting My Kids Into College « Rich and Deep and High and Wide Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:25:46 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-2338056 [...] (parental involvement, limits on screen time, reading to your kids, etc) and I have read a lot of opinions on sending your kids to the “bad” school (specific to California or not) and what is [...]

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By: K Hart http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-859344 K Hart Tue, 04 Mar 2014 00:04:59 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-859344 I just stumbled upon your blog via Emily Henderson’s interview (which was great by the way so thanks!) and I saw this mention of Oakland public schools and race. I went to this very high school you speak of (I figured it out because of the Tom Hanks comment). I am a white female and now teach K-6 Art in an Oakland public charter school. I am Oakland to the core. I am so very happy I had the experience of Oakland public schools. I feel it set me up to have successful relationships with people of all backgrounds. It wasn’t always easy- most of the time it was very hard (to be the the minority, to be singled out, to have assumptions made about me based on the color of my skin both from students and teachers, the lost goes on- all of the challenges we face with race) but I feel fully prepared to engage with my community and feel a part of it. I loved that our school had an art department, (many don’t anymore!) a drama department with a stage that was to-die-for, a music program that was amazing, and sports! I am an artist and did set design, I played in the marching band and jazz band, I painted that mural outside of the theatre box office with some friends, and I was part of the varsity swim team. I hope that your kiddos really take advantage of all this school has to offer, including the diversity. Academic skills were nothing to brag about after graduating but life experience, well nothing could compare. :)

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By: Transitions | http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-838033 Transitions | Thu, 30 Jan 2014 06:53:50 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-838033 [...] will say that reading Design Mom’s article about letting her kids go to a public high school in Oakland also rated a 2 out of 10 gave [...]

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By: Jackie http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-828040 Jackie Sat, 11 Jan 2014 07:37:38 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-828040 Hilarious! I went to the high school you are writing about in this post, and was the valedictorian a few years ago. I also was a product of the OUSD, k-12. If I may offer a bit of advice, this school is really what you make of it. There are kids that are serious, that come from wealthy upper middle class, professional families, and kids that have no families or foster care. There are good teachers and teachers that literally cannot control the classroom. There are LOTS of clubs. I recommend buildOn! I’m an alumni, so of course there may be some bias. But one note of advice, if you want to prepare your children for college, get them extra help or enroll them in additional classes. Challenge them academically, to supplement whatever this school does not offer. In particular, it is a bit weak in math and sciences. You can concurrently enroll in college courses at the nearby Merrit college for free, through the school. I came to college feeling very behind my peers (I do go to a really competitive University who have some very bright minds.) I regret not taking on more academically outside of school because I did not know about what everyone else was doing around the country or how much I was cheated of a strong math and science foundation! That being said, I love my high school, the friends and teachers that I had, and my diverse experiences (though some would make my college classmates gasp in astonishment).

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By: cookinmiami http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-816596 cookinmiami Sun, 22 Dec 2013 14:36:16 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-816596 Oh my god, it must be nice for all these people commenting on how great it is to be open minded when they are not the kids that have to attend these schools.
My girls attended public, charter, and private, throughout their school years, and there is nothing like attending a class/school where you feel safe and there aren’t obnoxious kids disrupting. Sure if you’re in AP, or gifted, as mine were its different, but you Still have to walk the halls and eat at the cafeteria. Take your poor kids out of that school. You wouldn’t take them to a bad doctor, or bad restaurant, why would you put them in a bad school??? I dissent

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By: chelsea http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-754405 chelsea Sun, 06 Oct 2013 20:53:31 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-754405 how refreshing! you are such a cool mom. love that you are sending your kids to this school. sounds like it will be an amazing experience for them.

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By: Aubree http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-752423 Aubree Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:06:48 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-752423 Thank God you wrote this. You don’t even know how much hope this gives me. I am a teacher for a “2″ school (elementary) and I attended this district in Middle School and High School. I can’t tell you how many people tell me I should be teaching elsewhere, that our school is worthless or less important.
We are a 2 because our socio-economic status is very low, a lot of our kids speak other languages or their parents do so they get NO help, parents work 3-4 jobs to be able to FEED their kids so no, they’re not able to make every school function. But that means the school is less important? That means your kid is too good to learn next to these kids? That means good teachers should go to other schools so that these kids get the ‘sloppy seconds’ and don’t learn as much? Makes NO sense to me.
This post made me smile SO SO much and I hope that you know this made my day. I LOVE my job because I am changing these kids lives. I am not only their teacher, but one of the few stable people in their very unstable lives. These kids LOVE like no other, they appreciate anything they get because they know what it’s like to have nothing, and these kids want to learn. But mostly, they just wanna be kids like everyone else and be able to go to school with everyone else and not have a stigma placed on them everyday.
The school rating system is absurd. If I have a student that comes in with absolutely no English experience (Spanish only) and they are at a 1 on the scale, academic wise but they really learn and grow and reach a 5…that means something! But if the school says this student must be a 10 by the end of the year…then I “failed”. But I TAUGHT that kid! He is LEARNING, isn’t that the point? Apparently not. A kid that comes in at a 9 and leaves at an 11 is a success in the school’s eyes even though they grew less than the kid that went from 1 to 5. Our school gets a bad “grade” because we have different issues to face then other schools. Our grade should be based on our GROWTH, not our final stats. Just like each kid should be judged on how much they’ve grown, not where they are.
Anyway, I know I am ranting but I just really REALLY want to thank you because I NEVER come across people like you, or people who would write such a positive post and I wish that I did. Just know that for every you out there, there are 100 negative people with blinders on, and I hope that can change.

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By: Lauran http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-746176 Lauran Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:48:51 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-746176 Hi there. For some reason I cannot see the second page of comments — they are not showing up! I’m very interested in this conversation. — Lauran

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By: Megan http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-740608 Megan Sat, 21 Sep 2013 01:00:16 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-740608 I’m pretty sure my Mom went to that high school (the Tom Hanks thing is a giveaway, she graduated a couple years after him. Said he was nice, but geeky. Go figure). Random factoid, I went to their prom back in 2002. My friend’s mom was a teacher there, so I went with her. It was a little more save the last dance than my school, but I loved it!

I went to SL. I heard so many people talk about how horrible it was, and how much they wanted to get out of the area. You know what, I had a crazy diverse education. The racial breakdown was pretty much the same as your kiddos. I had culture shock when I got to my private college and realized I was the majority (like 80% white it seemed like). I also took honors classes and got a great education, despite the fact that it has a 4 rating. Just checked!

I am so glad your kiddos are having such a great experience!

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By: Liz http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-740504 Liz Fri, 20 Sep 2013 22:46:55 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-740504 I live in Oakland, and I have a three year old – it is SO incredibly nice to hear something good about Oakland public schools! Thanks for making my day. I’m planning on sending my son to kindergarten in the near future, and really, I’ve mostly only heard good things about the schools via word of mouth. All of the negatives come from the rating sites online.

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By: Nikko http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-735648 Nikko Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:19:46 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-735648 Interesting post. I went to this high school myself many, many years ago. A lot has changed. It was the best in Oakland with kids getting into Ivy Leagues each year (not saying they still don’t).

It is also the school zone for our current house in Oakland. As our daughter is only 6, we have a number of years before we have to think about it but we are taking the public school route and chose an elementary school that is not known to be “the best” but that we really like.

Interestingly, many local kids did go to that high school when I was there. And racially it was 40% white, 40% black and 20% other back in the 80s.

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By: Chrissy http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-734140 Chrissy Sun, 15 Sep 2013 00:26:27 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-734140 There are so many reasons why the ethnic/cultural/racial makeup of a school might matter or might be an advantage…whatever it is. For us, our public schools have over 45% non-native English speaking (is that even how the grammar of that phrase goes? Not feeling so in charge of my English at the moment, myself) kids and while I don’t have any issues with that socially ( my son had wonderful friendships at that school, language barriers notwithstanding) or culturally (to this day that same son is fascinated by other languages and cultures, all to the good…but there is this: due to the amount of time and attention that went into educating the kids in two or more languages (every teacher was fluent in Spanish and many had other languages as well), my son fell through the cracks. It wasn’t the only reason they did not cope well with his needs as a dyslexic student, but it was a factor. I spent a great deal of time there trying to help out and I saw some stuff. Ahem. Anyway…his teachers were overextended and it showed. It wasn’t the class size…it was a modest 20 kids. It was juggling so much. Our “white flight” was really “oh, crud…this kid needs a school that has time and attention for his unique problem since we still don’t know what to do and need help and support”. We went to a private Montessori where he got tons of needed one on one and now he has aged out and homeschools. School decisions have become emotionally, socially and financially charged in America. If I had a public choice that worked for my son, I would take it. The other two will be in a less challenged public school when they age out of our beloved Montessori, thanks to a school choice system we have here in Indiana.

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By: Stop, Drop and Blog – This Week: Instagram, Links, and Elsewhere http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-733732 Stop, Drop and Blog – This Week: Instagram, Links, and Elsewhere Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:55:05 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-733732 [...] Public High School in Oakland by Gabrielle at Design Mom. When the new Ohio Report Cards came out for schools, I got a bit verklempt about our scores, especially when I knew that some people in my life would look at our school district’s grades and feel somehow superior. I almost immediately shook that feeling, and this post, several weeks later, explains why I place absolutely no faith in the scoring of school districts. At all. [...]

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By: Parag http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-732662 Parag Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:42:36 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-732662 Yes, but white flight happens for all sorts of reasons. The opposite end of this school is Mission San Jose in Fremont, California. It has a majority immigrant population consisting mainly of Indian and Chinese kids, whose parents are mostly in Silicon Valley firms.

These are high income / high education immigrants with a very high acadamic focus – guess what, there was white flight from this school as well because they felt the Asian dominated enviornment was too much of a pressurecooker. The footbal team was shut down – Asian kids weren’t interested, there weren’t too many Non-Asians left.

So, whereas test scores and class may appear to be more of a factor than race, Mission San Jose sort of disproves that theory.

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By: I'm In Love With An Incredible Woman! Gabrielle Blair of Design Mom. | The Woman Formerly Known as Beautiful http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-732544 I'm In Love With An Incredible Woman! Gabrielle Blair of Design Mom. | The Woman Formerly Known as Beautiful Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:09:46 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-732544 [...] the items that make up an Ideal Art Supply Cupboard and what it means to send her children to a school that is considered a 2 out of 10 by the Great Schools [...]

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By: oaklandmom http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-731786 oaklandmom Fri, 13 Sep 2013 04:40:53 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-731786 Funny that this high school has a 2/10 (I live in Oakland)…it’s actually the 2nd best public HS in Oakland, and is seen as a great HS if your kid is artsy. The top public choice for a lot of families a school that has academies that sort of work like tracking. I liked your perspective. But– it is interesting that some would have a hard time sending their kids here, becuase I’ve always gotten the sense that it’s a good school, despite the 2.

Oakland schools do a lot of non-tracking tracking. So if you kids take the right classes (AP, etc…) they’ll be pushed academically. But if you don’t take those classes, your kid may have a harder time being academically successful. Oh so I’ve heard…

The campus is really nice too- feels very secluded…

Best of luck!

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By: Lauren http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-3/#comment-730666 Lauren Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:35:32 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-730666 I actually just thought to look up my high school and it was a 3! I couldn’t believe it! I got a great education there and always felt completely safe. Just more proof that you can’t put a number on an experience as widely varied by person as school.

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By: Nicole http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-730089 Nicole Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:53:23 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-730089 I also just posted this above, but this article says a similar thing.
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/08/private_school_vs_public_school_only_bad_people_send_their_kids_to_private.html
“Whatever you think your children need—deserve—from their school experience, assume that the parents at the nearby public housing complex want the same. No, don’t just assume it. Do something about it. Send your kids to school with their kids. Use the energy you have otherwise directed at fighting to get your daughter a slot at the competitive private school to fight for more computers at the public school. Use your connections to power and money and innovation to make your local school—the one you are now sending your child to—better. Don’t just acknowledge your liberal guilt—listen to it.’

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By: Nicole http://www.designmom.com/2013/09/public-high-school-in-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-730086 Nicole Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:49:41 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=40463#comment-730086 People will not like me for putting this link up but as a teacher i COMPLETELY AGREE with this article.

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/08/private_school_vs_public_school_only_bad_people_send_their_kids_to_private.html

“Whatever you think your children need—deserve—from their school experience, assume that the parents at the nearby public housing complex want the same. No, don’t just assume it. Do something about it. Send your kids to school with their kids. Use the energy you have otherwise directed at fighting to get your daughter a slot at the competitive private school to fight for more computers at the public school. Use your connections to power and money and innovation to make your local school—the one you are now sending your child to—better. Don’t just acknowledge your liberal guilt—listen to it.”

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