Comments on: Homeopathie http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/ The Intersection of Design & Motherhood Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:08:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Nadine http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-445036 Nadine Sun, 17 Mar 2013 01:01:26 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-445036 Ben Goldacre’s position is not that the western medical community has a rock-solid knowledge of how the body works, but rather that science, rigorously applied through tests and trials, gives us the best knowledge available.

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By: KC http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-444385 KC Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:51:10 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-444385 I’m also not a regular reader, but am:
1) firmly convinced that some herbs/etc. can produce physical effects (c’mon, even aspirin is now a synthesized compound that we used to get from the bark from a tree which I now don’t remember), but
2) firmly convinced that the field of naturopathy is cluttered and marred by fake remedies (which I’d include homeopathy of the “tiny amount of substance repeatedly diluted until there is none left in the liquid” variety in; many of the remedies people are talking about in this thread as homeopathy really aren’t, but are naturopathy or herbal remedies (like using arnica leaf mash externally for bruises)).

When these terms get muddled, it’s easy for people who just don’t buy that “water can remember the shape of a molecule that used to be in it” to also dismiss all naturopathy (and anything that is not chemically synthesized and put in a plastic bottle and labeled), which is a pity, because some of those natural items have massive (negative) interactions with traditional western medicine (see grapefruit juice and licorice with heart medication) and some have really positive effects that people are ignoring in favor of something that’s not as good for them.

And those of us who do use some herbal remedies (ginger for nausea, for instance), many of which do have double-blind clinical trials finally supporting them, get lumped together with those who believe in remedies which double-blind trials have indicated have no medical benefit. That conflation tends to cause people who prefer empirical evidence to dismiss all of it (and us), rather than just the “water will remember molecules” part of it.

So, I have a strong interest in arguing against the conflation of homeopathy-with-no-active-compounds (homeopathy of the super-diluted-stuff sense) with naturopathy/herbal remedies. If hibiscus tea can lower blood pressure, I suspect it’s a better option for many borderline-hypertensive people than synthesized drugs (cheaper, no known side-effects).

I’m not sure if the terms are used differently in France, though (as home medicine might result in a similar word as the like-cures-like stuff, and it does all get muddled up), so I have no idea whether what you’ve been taking has active ingredients. Hope all goes well!

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By: D Heartsong http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-441069 D Heartsong Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:44:05 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-441069 Great on bruises too!

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By: Alice http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-438133 Alice Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:52:22 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-438133 My dentist recommended Arnica for bruising and soreness after having all my wisdom teeth taken out, but other than Arnica I’ve heard that most homeopathic products have the same ingredients and they’re basically placebos. Would you say that’s true?

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By: Emily http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437848 Emily Tue, 12 Feb 2013 05:59:03 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437848 So here’s the deal: If you get the right remedy, homeopathics work great! But it’s tricky to figure out which one is right. I’ve had much more success using the ones my doctor has recommended than self-prescribing. We see Dr. Neustaedter in the SF Bay Area and he’s an amazing natural pediatrician. Most of my Mormon friends think it’s a hoax, but it’s their loss. It works using energy. And just because we don’t understand everything about homeopathics yet doesn’t mean it isn’t real. I’ve had enough experiences with homeopathy that I know it works, even if it sounds strange. I’d say most people in the U.S. don’t even know what homeopathics are though.

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By: Jerri http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437733 Jerri Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:52:22 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437733 Then why did homeopathics work on my newborn son almost immediately when he had a strange ailment? A new baby does not know the difference between placebo and real. It is not magic either.

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By: sarah k http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437710 sarah k Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:25:28 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437710 I’ve used a variety of homeopathic remedies (under the guidance of a homeopathic practitioner) both for my children and for me. I’m a firm believer that they really help. I think both alternative and traditional western medicine have their uses–sometimes you need one, sometimes you need the other, and sometimes both work together.

I don’t buy the argument that homeopathic remedies are just sugar pills, especially since I’ve seen how regularly they are prescribed by traditional doctors in Germany (we lived there when I was a child and I’ve been there often since). The pills certainly are based in sugar, but the remedy is sprayed onto the sugar pill in the very small doses that are typical of homeopathy (and that make it so safe for children and even babies). This is why you should never touch the pills with your hands before ingesting them, because the remedy will come off on your hands and then you really are just taking a sugar pill.

As a side note, I think at least some MDs in the states may be becoming more open to homeopathy. My pediatrician is perfectly fine with me using the remedies on my kids–especially because another pediatrician in the practice has taken courses and become certified in homeopathy and now incorporates it into her practice.

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By: Caroline http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437644 Caroline Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:29:18 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437644 I have been using it for years. I feel like it works, sometimes it’s so subtle you don’t know. And sometimes it can take time for a remedy to work. I have been doing homeopathic immunization to replace many of the vaccines that are now given to children. And my homeopath offered me a remedy to help with the effects of vaccines in general for the few we did give our daughter.

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By: Sylvie http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437626 Sylvie Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:16:52 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437626 As always, Homeopathy is a rather heated discussion with varying opinions and I only hope to clarify some points, if these have already been covered and I missed reading the post sorry :)

Firstly there is a vast difference between Herbal/Natural remedies and Homeopathy.
Herbal remedies – a plant or plant part or an extract or mixture of these used to prevent, alleviate, or cure disease—called also herbal, herbal medicine. Such as Herb teas, tinctures, Arnica gel/cream, Vitamin C tablets ect
Homeopathy is, in short; A system for the treatment of disease by minute doses of natural substances that in a healthy person would produce symptoms of disease.

As a student of Homeopathy, I am completing a Bachelor of Health Science majoring in Homeopathy (in Australia) I would suggest that Gabrielle’s readers contact on of the many Homeopathic Colleges for further information and clarification regarding Homeopathy and how it works.
http://www.amcofh.org/ – American Medical College of Homeopathy
http://www.endeavour.edu.au/ – Endeavour College of Natural Health (Australia)
http://www.homeoint.org/hds/ehhds/default.htm -Ecole d’Homéopathie Hahnemannienne DauphinéSavoie.

The International Council for Homeopathy has a very informative article about Homeopathy, here; http://www.homeopathy-ich.org/public-services.html

As Gabrielle has said in the article she had a close friend, obviously with Homeopathic experience and knowledge, help her make informed choices about how and when to take the Homeopathic remedies. When taking any kind of medicine/remedy you should always speak with a qualified practitoner or pharamacist.

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By: jessicamaybe http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437515 jessicamaybe Sun, 10 Feb 2013 03:55:03 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437515 What actually bothers me more than either side getting upset about this is the ridiculously high confusion rate between natural medicines (cures derived from nature) and homeopathy. I regularly take peppermint or ginger tea for indigestion/upset stomach. When my GERD acts up, I choke down Bragg’s unpasteurized apple cider vinegar, because it works better for me than Prilosec and Nexium. I took Yogi’s “Women’s Energy Tea” with Dong Quai to regulate my period, and I now take Yogi’s “Mother-to-be” tea to help with my pregnancy and strengthen my uterus.

Homeopathy is not using whole herbs/plants/etc to treat symptoms/problems. It’s the belief that diluting a material in water until it cannot be detected, then adding sugar and selling it to consumers, will somehow help them. It’s the belief that water has a memory. Seeing as birth control pills and other medicines are found in most American drinking water, I’m very glad that water apparently doesn’t remember all that well. I can just imagine the amount of infertility that would be rampant here!

I think there are plenty of people like me that are willing to embrace natural medicines but believe homeopathy to be a cure that doesn’t live up to its promise, and doesn’t hold up to any scientific inquiry.

I truly hope you aren’t upset by these comments, Gabby. You’re just sharing a bit of French culture with your readers, and that’s great. Homeopathy is just one of those things that causes strong feelings, I think. I’d compare it to discussing the anti-vaccine movement, another subject that is bound to bring up strong opinions.

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By: jessicamaybe http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437511 jessicamaybe Sun, 10 Feb 2013 03:41:10 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437511 I think Andy is trying to be as scientifically truthful as possible here, and he may be worried people being lead astray by homeopathie. I, too, think that homeopathie can be dangerous, in that people can trust it to cure things that are simply not possible for it to cure, as it has no active ingredients. I lived in northern California for a few years and had many friends who swore by homeopathie, but after reading the available scientific literature on it, I just don’t buy it. More than that, anything that’s not FDA regulated can be dangerous – there was a big upset a few years back because some popular homeopathic teething pills for babies were found to have actual belladonna in them, which is poisonous. I do know many people who swear by homeopathy, and I myself use natural medicines at times (I use Yogi teas quite often, in fact), but after researching homeopathy, it seems like the placebo effect is in fact at work. However, the placebo effect is extremely useful at times, and can be very powerful. So perhaps it’s okay in some circumstances, but I certainly wouldn’t take homeopathic remedies for anything that can’t be fixed by Tylenol, bandages, or plain old time.

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By: Asma http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437507 Asma Sun, 10 Feb 2013 03:05:39 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437507 My son who is now 8 has had migraines since the age of 6. I decided to try homeopathic meds for a 3 month course. It didn’t seem to be helping so I quit giving it to him but after 3 months on it his migraines reduced from having them every week to having them once every 3 months. I’m inclined to believe the homeopathic meds helped but am sceptical at the same time

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By: Vita S http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437481 Vita S Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:14:10 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437481 I have been using homeopathic medicine for years and I love it. I even found a family doctor in regular practice with homeopathic certificate. It cures and prevents future sicknesses. I wish I lived in France!!!

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By: Suzanna http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437455 Suzanna Sat, 09 Feb 2013 19:28:04 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437455 I have had success and failures with Homeopathy. I LOVE Hylands Cold and Cough for kids (I take it too, amazing stuff). I haven’t had too much success with Borion’s Cold calm, it is super expensive too. My husband takes some for his allergies and loves it as it doesn’t give him the side affects of the OTC allergy medicine.

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By: jen http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437450 jen Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:41:00 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437450 when we were in france this summer our landlord recommended me some homeopathic sleep aids sold in these same sexy bottles. i ran out and bought it, excited to try something natural (and thus “safe”). i went home and did some research on my purchase before trying it, and found that even the slightest overdose was a potent poison and my little bottle was enough to kill a person. i could think of nothing else but my children somehow getting a hold of the stuff and gobbling up those “yummy little white balls.” those sexy bottles went straight to the garbage. . .

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By: MorticiA http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437423 MorticiA Sat, 09 Feb 2013 13:50:57 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437423 I think some of it can be useful, but I also worry about the lack of oversight for homeopathy. While manufacturers of medications must prove their efficacy and safety through randomized controlled trials, and list possible contraindications and side effects and drug interactions, this is not true for natural remedies. We take them with caution after careful consideration of information available. If I can, I research the product on PubMed to establish its efficacy and safety. I’m also cautious of any product that claims it can cure just about anything. That being said, I do believe that some natural remedies are very effective, and have proven to be such. However, just because something is natural, does not mean it can not be harmful in large doses or when taken in concert with conventional medication. In the USA it is possible to find a practitioner of integrative medicine (conventional + homeopathic), which is what I would love to find here in Canada. I’ve never taken drugs to stop thinking about something – for me the natural remedy would be a nice heavy stint of cardio or weights to transfer my thoughts to my aching body :)

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By: Laura http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437319 Laura Fri, 08 Feb 2013 20:45:11 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437319 What I found most interesting about your original post was the role of pharmacists in France. The US will surely have to move in this direction eventually. We are thankfully seeing more and more nurse practitioners seeing patients in doctors’ practices. But it is absurd that in the US you should have to make an appointment at a doctors office to be seen for less than 5 minutes and told what you already knew, that your child has pink eye, and then off to the pharmacy for ointment. It seems a waste. I know almost nothing about homeopathy but your European readers should understand that in the US, MD’s rule. Their object is to make a profit and they routinely over-treat their patients. I have dozens of examples of this in my personal experience but the US rates of c-section and their variance from state to state are a very good example of profit motive taking precedence over patients. This is also why there is so little support for natural remedies—no patent, no huge profits. When my then 2nd grader was diagnosed with ADHD we were told the ONLY remedy was narcotics. A little Internet research told us about L glutamine. The difference in her was instant. She’s 13 now and a straight A student. And she still takes Glutamine. As things stand, we have to be our own best advocates and get over our belief that doctors are omniscient.

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By: C Davis http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437312 C Davis Fri, 08 Feb 2013 20:25:20 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437312 What I like best about my Naturopath physician is that he tries to find the root of the problem. I had sinus issues and headaches for years. After seeing him he recommended a food sensitivity test. Once I omitted the foods from my diet that I tested sensitive too, sinus issues cleared and headaches stopped. I had a list of prescriptions a mile long from other doctors. Turns out, it was what I was eating personal to only me. He also recommends homeopathic remedies on a regular basis, when sleeping enough, drinking enough water and being active aren’t the answer (always the first thing he asks at an appointment). I was a sceptic and questioned many things in the beginning, so saying that they are always placebos, I don’t believe is accurate.
One of our best examples, my son had the croup while traveling (the barking seal type) and after giving him the suggested remedy, it stopped. Within a few hours. Call that what you want, a fellow traveler’s son had had it in the weeks prior and she said the only thing that treats it is steroids. Ours was treated with continued homeopath remedy that caused no harm, I’ll take that solution any time.
My parents are of the take a pill generation and trust all doctors like God. They have more problems caused by side effects of prescriptions than original health issues. Recently they have been open to other ideas, (mainly because they’re doctors were out of options) like chiropractors and natural remedies, and omitting processed foods, etc. Their health has slowly improved. While not a cure all for every aliment, looking for a solution that is not just “take this prescription blindly and call me if there is a problem so I can give you another one,” is a good thing. We keep our “wonder box” close on hand and it is the first place we go along with essential oils for issues that arise. We also see regular md’s when needed, but try to look at the big picture of cause and not a quick fix. It has been a long process, but one we have benefitted from. While we have purchased the homeopathic remedies on our own (at health food stores, etc.) we have found the most success with the guidance of our Naturopath.
Thank you for posting about other options for health and wellness, learning from “new to us” places and cultures is never a bad thing.

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By: Tam http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437301 Tam Fri, 08 Feb 2013 19:38:23 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437301 The magnesium really seems to help with stress and migraines for me. I ended up going to a higher dose in a supplement form but used the little sugar pills for a while. My mid-wife also used the blue and black cohosh to get things going in labor and it was really effective. Now that I’m finished having children (we stopped at _only_ four), I often remark how I wish that I could find a mid-wife practicing as a GP or pediatrician because their approach was so pragmatic and they don’t reach for antibiotics and steroids all the time like our MDs do.

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By: Design Mom http://www.designmom.com/2013/02/homeopathie/comment-page-1/#comment-437283 Design Mom Fri, 08 Feb 2013 18:04:29 +0000 http://www.designmom.com/?p=30699#comment-437283 I hear you Dianna, and I agree that all sides should be represented here. And I think they have been! There is a wide variety of opinions in these comments. And happily, there’s only one commenter that I can see who has been chastised. That would be Adam. But even then, he still had plenty of opportunities to make his opinions known.

I’m actually delighted with how the comments have proceeded. For the most part, everyone has been very respectful and calm. Like you, they share their stories and let others form their own opinions.

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